Have Couch, Will Fly

By Bert BottaFor those of you who love to fly, you know that once “it’s in your blood,” the passion for flight never leaves. As a retired TWA and NetJet pilot, the passion for flight was still there so I recently began training pilots in aircraft simulators to fly in instrument weather conditions and to get hired at the airlines.During one of my training sessions, I met a fellow pilot who told me about Gilbert Kliman, M.D. and his wish for a co- pilot to support him in his far-flung travels.It appears that Gil and I seemed pre-destined to meet, one might even say serendipitously, around some combination of aviation and psychology from the get-go since I am also a Licensed Professional Counselor, in addition to my professional piloting career.The Meeting and The ManGilbert Kliman, M.D.I met Gil at his home in San Francisco recently to interview him for this article. Up to that point we had flown together a few times, with me as his co-pilot and he as the pilot in command.As I drove over the Golden Gate Bridge into San Francisco to meet him, years of memories from being raised in “The City” flooded through my mind as I pulled up in front of his beautiful home on Divisadero Street, in one of the most beautiful and stately neighborhoods in San Francisco.Gil lives in a beautiful, totally remodeled, tri-level Victorian home that he and his wife have creatively set up as both home and office where, in addition to running the daily affairs of the Children’s Psychological Health Center, they each see patients on a separate level from their home.From the first time I met Gil, I knew there was something special about him. His measured, concise, clear manner of speech and lively sense of humor conveyed to me his attention to detail and his deep commitment to and love of his work.Gil has a “mentoring” quality that I immediately felt and connected with. This is something that is in short supply in most modern day men. It’s something that, as a man, I treasure and most often unconsciously seek out.Before we started the interview in the lower level cubbies that serve as his agency’s Executive Director’s and video editing offices he leaned over and, true to his pilot persona, gave me a “pre-takeoff briefing” on the importance of protecting the privacy of his clients and the necessity for the strictest confidentiality during our interview.The seriousness of his tone and his commitment to his clients’ privacy came through to me in somewhat of a contrast to my own, more relaxed code of confidentiality when I was in private practice as a professional counselor. I was impressed and immediately felt a respect for this man that would continue to grow the more I spent time with him.Sporadically throughout this interview I segued in and out of the questions I asked him. You will know this when you see DK (Dr. Kliman) and BB: (Me, Bert Botta)Taking Flight Dr. Kliman began his aviation career at age 3, when his father took him for a ride in a Piper Cub at the then, Lindbergh Field near Sheepshead Bay in Brooklyn, NY. He was hooked! Shortly thereafter began his glider-building phase.By age 7 he was building Albatross gliders made of balsa wood and silk paper, with wingspans of 6 feet or more. He progressed from there into building remote controlled, motor-powered aircraft.As we talked he seemed to be reliving his life through this interview, wringing his hands and reflecting deeply on what he was sharing. I was comparing myself to him, and coming up short, thinking how methodical and concise he was in recalling his childhood, speaking from a vivid memory and without notes.A Psychiatrist is Born! During his early childhood he was occasionally home-schooled by his father. When Gil was 7 years old, his father gave him the collective works of Sigmund Freud. Undaunted, he voraciously began to read everything psychological that he could get his hands on.It was when he learned to spell the word psychiatry that he decided to become a psychiatrist! Seriously. He figured that by becoming a psychiatrist he could help heal what he now understands more fully as the PTSD nightmares and distress that his father regularly suffered from.Later on he discovered that some of his parents’ relatives were holocaust survivors. From this he learned about the trauma that his father and his entire family suffered. It would be many years later that he learned of the holocaust death of 15 members of his grandmother’s family, that being the reason for her going mute for 4 months.Medical School and BeyondAfter graduation and research at Harvard Medical School at age 23 he finished his medical internship and went directly into psychiatry. Very soon after that he was drafted into the Navy as a Lieutenant. His time in the Navy as the head of a military psychiatric hospital would lay the groundwork for his future forensic career since it was here that he learned to deal with severe military crime and psychiatry cases.His personal family life began earlier when he and his wife began raising their family. He fathered five children, the youngest now age 25. It was during this time that he realized if he became a child psychiatrist he could do the most good for the most people for the most years of their life.In 1965, he founded the Center for Preventive Psychiatry (CPP) in White Plains, NY.  This became the nations largest center for the management of child situational crises such as the traumatic experiences of being raped or losing a parent by death during childhood or suffering the disaster of a flood or hurricane. It was at CPP that he and his colleagues developed techniques to effectively, efficiently and economically treat pre-school children in their real life spaces, particularly in their day-to-day nursery school life.Since beginning the Center in 1965 this method has had a lasting, deep emotional effect on Dr. Kliman; so much so that, to this day in 2018 he’s still developing and disseminating this method throughout the nation.This Shrink Gets Around! Being in the military gave Gil access to the GI Bill of Rights for educational purposes. Because the GI Bill covered flight training he started flying and built up many hours, most of it in his own Yankee Traveler at first. He got his private pilot license and an instrument rating; ultimately he trained for and received a multi-engine rating in a Cessna 337. Over the years, he also received a glider rating and has accumulated 4,900 total hours of flight time, more time in the air than some career pilots!In the process of developing his practice and setting up a therapeutic children’s pre-school he has logged hundreds of hours, flying to places like Haiti, Isla de Holbox, and Bueno Aires, Argentina – the latter in one of his favorite airplanes, the Cessna Silver Eagle, a highly modified and turboprop poweredDr. Gil Kilman in Haiti. (Gil Kilman)version of the Cessna Centurion.He has also flown to more mundane destinations, such as throughout the state of California, to Washington and Michigan. On many of these flights the fees from his forensic activities make it possible to fund the ongoing research and setup of more therapeutic pre-schools.Over the years he has been board certified in Neurology, Psychiatry, and Child, Adolescent and Adult Psychoanalysis, credentialed by the American Board of Psychiatry and Neurology, the New York Psychoanalytic Institute, and the American Psychoanalytic Association. Because of these credentials and long experience he’s often called to serve as an expert witness in major and often very high profile cases. He is working on eight cases right now.Flying for a Higher Purpose!Gil derives great satisfaction and joy flying throughout the nation and to Alaska, often landing at small remote airstrips in order to evaluate plaintiffs in cases and testifying in widely scattered, otherwise impractical court situations at local, state and federal levels.Some of the diverse and interesting aircraft he’s flown over the years have been a Yankee Traveler, a straight-tail Bonanza, a twin-engine Beechcraft Baron B55 with counter rotating props, a pressurized Cessna Centurion 210, a Javelin, a Silver Eagle, an Adam A500 and most recently, his pressurized, Riley Rocket turbocharged PT210.Soon he will return to the skies in one of his aviation true loves, the Cessna Silver Eagle. He likes the Silver Eagle for many reasons but mainly because of the many years of manufacturing and in-flight experience that have gone into the production and modification of that particular model of the Cessna P210. It’s turbine engine has proven to be ultra reliable and the full de-icing capability allows him to fly in otherwise prohibitive weather conditions.Combining Passion and Purpose Long before the well-publicized Catholic Church child abuse cases in Boston, in 1997 Dr. Kliman was the principal and only psychiatric expert for the plaintiffs in pioneering cases against the Catholic Church. One in particular, the “Does versus the Archdiocese of Dallas” case that reached the court system in Texas resulted, not only in compensation for the plaintiffs rehabilitation but also for punitive damages against the church for concealment of the knowledge that children were being harmed and mandated reporting was being neglected.That experience led to him being the principal expert witness against the Archdioceses of Los Angeles and San Diego and also against the Salesian Order. There were numerous other cases, not only against the Catholic Church but some against Protestant churches as well as one involving a Jewish synagogue. Currently he’s involved in a case against a Muslim religious organization involving serious sexual abuse on children.He also helps defend school systems against allegations if he believes they’re wrongful or exaggerated. He speaks as an expert for traumatized victims of train wrecks and plane crashes. He’s had a federal case against a jet charter organization in which children lost fathers and grandfathers.He has cases against Uber, for the alleged raping of passengers. Recently an evaluee of his, perhaps encouraged and emboldened by his evaluation went on the Today show to complain against the prep school that had negligently allowed her to be the victim of a sexual initiation ceremony that was allegedly well known and allowed to happen.He founded and directed several agencies such as The Center for Preventive Psychiatry in New York, the Foster Care study unit at the Columbia University Department of Psychiatry, and now in California, at the Children’s Psychological Health Center, a non-profit, 501c3 organization. (CPHC)It’s through a branch of the CPHC, the Children’s Psychological Trauma Center that he conducts forensic activities that provide a voice for children in the justice system, as well as defense in cases that he regards as rightfully defensible.The fees for those services have often been significant enough to allow the agency to provide training, research therapeutic services at little or no cost, in addition to funding scientific research on treatment outcomes.At this point in the interview I asked him why, at his age of 88, he continues to do this work and what kind of reward drives him to continue.DK: I consider Reflective Network Therapy (RNT) to be my best lifetime achievement. My unusual opportunity to be a young psychoanalyst in 1965 led me to discover how to operate in a pre-school setting with multiple children who developed attachments to me. This quickly and powerfully improved their mental health and increased the effectiveness of my work with them. This work produced results and phenomena such as IQ gains and recoveries from autism, far more profound than I ever expected.This harnessing of a social network of peers, teachers and parents within RNT has continued to be refined, formalized, and taught to over 25 teams for the benefit of about 1,800 children. I could never have accomplished this without having first been a child psychiatrist and analyst who was comfortable in a pre-school setting.  My decades of positive outcomes and learning from experience continue to inspire and keep me young and training younger people.Giving Wings to His Work DK: There’s no way I could have accomplished this work without an airplane since I now fly regularly to remote sites, like to a Native American tribe in Washington, to train new therapists while simultaneously videotaping the proceedings.When I look back on the impact that my work and the work of my colleagues has made, I’m tremendously gratified and pleased to see the societal difference this work has made for children.BB: Do you anticipate inquiries into your work as a result of the recent school shootings in Florida?DK: I don’t know what will come of that but I think my book on school shootings would be very helpful to that community.I do think there may be reasons for children to sue the gun manufacturer. There also may be reasons for children to sue negligent legislators, who have for selfish reasons, built their careers on the deaths of their constituents. There may be reasons for suing ammunition manufacturers. However, these are all matters that I’ve not thought about until you asked me that question.Those are matters that are best left to the attorneys. But I can testify to the effects of betrayal on the children; many of the children have been betrayed by their own Congressional Representatives.They have spoken of this on public television. And many of the children have been psychologically damaged. Many of the parents of the children who were killed have experienced what, in legal terms is called “wrongful loss of filial services.”The loss of a child is the loss of a service so compensation might be available to these people. The children who have lost a parent might be able to be compensated for the loss of parental services.BB: Are you viewed sometimes as a rather unique and colorful character by combining your psychoanalytic career with your flying?DK: You’re the only person I know who has recognized my species, Rara Avis! I appreciate your recognition but it hasn’t become a topic of discussion in court!Except, on one occasion, someone pointed out, that despite my venerable age I was quite “cognitively intact!” (I hope so since I flew my own airplane to that hearing!)BB: It seems to me that you’re definitely a distinct character and you’re not the adventurous, playboy type! So I imagine that would prompt questions of this character who is testifying in front of them.DK: Well I’m not much of a playboy but I lean to devout cowardice in my philosophic and religious and especially my aviation beliefs! Maybe that’s why I’ve been able to fly so long and without incident.BB: Say more about the aviation component of your work.DK: In Does versus Charter Jet I did testify in a federal aviation case. I have also assisted in the defense of loss of service cases in Eastern Airlines matters and also in maritime matters. My aviation knowledge wasn’t called on but I was interested in the aviation cases even though I was opining on psychological consequences of traumas.My willingness to go to remote clients is important. It’s easy for me to fly to a small airport near a small town where there’s an attorney’s client who might have difficulty traveling a long distance to visit an expert in a large city.I’m also able to bring a team to places and cases.  For example, a Christian Academy in Missouri was the subject of a false allegation that it was mistreating many resident children in its religious community. It was established for delinquent, conduct disordered children, mostly teenagers.My team and I flew there and landed on their small airstrip. I went there often and learned a great deal that assisted me in the successful defense in federal court of their excellent and warm-hearted Christian community.I was their high altitude psychiatric angel with aluminum wings!BB: How do you see your career from this point on? Have you chosen a protégé? How do you see your work carried to the same level of competence and commitment that you have created and maintained?DK: I see myself as having a few more years of good cognitive and physical function. I’m developing successors by training many younger people to carry out Reflective Network Therapy, and others I’m helping learn how to apply psychoanalytic and psychodynamic and child development thinking to forensic problems.I have recently been negotiating with the San Francisco Center for Psychoanalysis to conduct a video series of forensic training seminars for their students. That way there will be a group of psychoanalytically and forensically trained people who will be able to carry on my work here in San Francisco.BB: It was at this point that we ended the interview. But as I reflect on our time together and our time to come, I realize there is no end in sight for this remarkable man, indeed a “Rara Avis” in the truest sense of the word!       
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